[ if she doesn't think about it it won't trouble her. and she is very good about not thinking things. ]
I AGREE THERE IS NO JUSTICE IN THAT A VICTIM IS A VICTIM AND OUGHT TO BE TREATED AS SUCH, WITH SEEKING THE ROOT OF THEIR ISSUE VERSUS PUNISHING THEM FOR IT
[ ... ]
PERHAPS TIS NOT A PUNISHMENT BUT AN EXCHANGE? TO RETURN TO LIFE, THOU MUST GIVE UP SOMETHING IN RETURN? I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH SUCH AN IDEA [ because the sinners don't give up shit so far it's all on dante ] BUT THE CITY I HAVE HAILED FROM DOES WORK ON SUCH A PRINCIPLE FUNDAMENTALLY
[ So that's a perspective they share. It interests him to see where their senses of justice overlap, and where they diverge.
Not a punishment, but an exchange? That sounds more reasonable from an ethical standpoint, and -- it just makes sense. Of course it would be an exchange. ]
A price that must be paid, because nothing comes without a cost.
That's what being alive means.
[ Peace, happiness, survival: something is always lost in pursuit of them. Sacrificed.
Then...
What price did Neil pay to wake up here, alive?
Was it paid in advance? His chance at revenge long gone, his reason for being meaning nothing here...
IN MUCH THE SAME WAY ONE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT LEAVING SOMETHING ELSE BEHIND
[ ... so even she has, at some point, done so. whether there's still pain that resides in her heart because of it is a moot point since she won't linger on it, won't think back, because the nagging fear of having forgotten what she left overrides the curiosity of what she has, but-- ]
MANY OF MY COMPANIONS HAVE CHOSEN TO LOOK AHEAD AT SUCH A COST BE IT FRIEND, FAMILY, OR SOMETHING ELSE IT IS SIMPLY THE WAY OF THINGS, AS THOU HATH SAID NOTHING COMES WITHOUT A COST
[ a pause, because certain things should come without a cost -- somethings will always have a cost, something that must be done to ensure that the result can remain, but in an ideal world... ]
NONETHELESS!!!!!!!!! IN TERMS OF DEATH, ONCE ONE HAS DIED THEY REMAIN DEAD WHENCE I AM FROM WHAT IT MEANS TO BE DEAD MAY DIFFER AMONG THE POPULACE, BUT THAT CAN BE SAID FOR WHAT IT MEANS TO LIVE AS WELL, NO?
what an odd constant. not bad, though. it'll sort of give her the same feeling that heine does later. ]
IT WOULD SEEM THE LANDS FROM WHICH WE HAIL DO NOT DIFFER MUCH IN THAT WAY HOW IS IT, THEN, THAT THY JUSTICE AND MINE OWN SEEM TO? PERHAPS NOT SO MUCH THE BELIEF IN IT BUT THAT WHICH DEFINES IT
[ That's a good question. He takes his time answering. ]
It's because we've lived different lives.
I believe it's that simple.
Our experiences shape our senses of justice.
A person who grows up in a war zone fighting to survive and a person who grows up in relative safety may both detest violence, but they'll probably have trouble seeing eye to eye any more than that.
The one who knows only war might think diplomacy is useless.
The one who knows only peace might think all violence is wrong, no matter what.
... is not one she thinks back on often, and so she does not now; the present, the future, have more to offer than that which lies behind. if what sinclair said was true in that basement, then her time is to come sooner or later, drawn by the whims of fate towards a golden bough
but not here, and so she doubles down on it mattering not. ]
IT IS A STORY THAT IS RATHER COMMON AMONG THOSE WHO HAVE LIVED WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE BACKSTREETS IN MY CITY THERE IS A COMPANION OF MINE WHOM THEE WOULD GET ALONG WITH WHO HAS LIVED A LIFE SIMILAR TO THEE, AND WHO STRIVES FOR THE SAME IN HER OWN WAY THOUGH I DO NOT KNOW IF THEE WOULD AGREE WITH HER METHOD MUCH AS THEE DO NOT AGREE WITH MINE BUT MISTRESS RODYA HAS A KIND HEART AND A DESIRE TO ENSURE THOSE AROUND HER DO NOT WANT FOR ANYTHING THAT THEY DO NOT FEEL IT NECESSARY TO STRIKE AGAINST ONE ANOTHER NOR EAT ONE ANOTHER SIMPLY TO SURVIVE THEMSELVES SHE IS MOST ADMIRABLE
There's something I've become sure of since I've arrived here.
There are people in every world who are trying to help those around them, doing their best with the tools they have, following the values they earnestly believe in.
IN ORDER TO BRING ABOUT SOME PEACE TO HER STARVING NEIGHBORS WHOM HADN'T ENOUGH MONEY FOR EVEN A MOMENT'S WORTH OF PEACE SHE STRUCK AN AXE THROUGH THE HEAD OF AN OLD WOMAN WHO HAD BEEN KEEPING THEIR MONEY FOR HERSELF WITHIN A SAFE A TAX COLLECTOR WHO WRUNG THE BONES OUT OF THE PEOPLE SHE LIVED ABOVE IT CAME WITH CONSEQUENCES, FOR THE COLLECTOR'S SISTER WAS OF IMPORT IN THOSE BACKSTREETS BUT FOR A MOMENT MISTRESS RODYA AND THE OTHERS HAD A TASTE OF WHAT A QUALITY LIFE WAS OF WHAT ALL DESERVE TO HAVE
I CANNOT CALL WHAT SHE DID AN INJUSTICE IF THERE IS UNFAIRNESS IN THE SYSTEM, IT MUST BE ROOTED OUT
THEN THEE WOULD GET ALONG WELL IT IS WHY SHE AND I DO TOO ALONG WITH HER BEING A VERY GOOD FRIEND, WHO IS EASY TO SPEAK WITH AND IS PERHAPS THE MOST EASYGOING OF US ALL IT IS NOT A TOPIC SHE WILL SPEAK ON HOWEVER THOUGH I THINK IT ADMIRABLE OF HER MYSELF MANY OF US ARE LIKE THAT, AND FEEL THE SAME AS SHE
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I AGREE
THERE IS NO JUSTICE IN THAT
A VICTIM IS A VICTIM AND OUGHT TO BE TREATED AS SUCH, WITH SEEKING THE ROOT OF THEIR ISSUE VERSUS PUNISHING THEM FOR IT
[ ... ]
PERHAPS TIS NOT A PUNISHMENT
BUT AN EXCHANGE?
TO RETURN TO LIFE, THOU MUST GIVE UP SOMETHING IN RETURN?
I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH SUCH AN IDEA [ because the sinners don't give up shit so far it's all on dante ] BUT THE CITY I HAVE HAILED FROM DOES WORK ON SUCH A PRINCIPLE
FUNDAMENTALLY
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Not a punishment, but an exchange? That sounds more reasonable from an ethical standpoint, and -- it just makes sense. Of course it would be an exchange. ]
A price that must be paid, because nothing comes without a cost.
That's what being alive means.
[ Peace, happiness, survival: something is always lost in pursuit of them. Sacrificed.
Then...
What price did Neil pay to wake up here, alive?
Was it paid in advance? His chance at revenge long gone, his reason for being meaning nothing here...
Did this city take even more from him? ]
Your city. How is this principle applied?
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ONE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT LEAVING SOMETHING ELSE BEHIND
[ ... so even she has, at some point, done so. whether there's still pain that resides in her heart because of it is a moot point since she won't linger on it, won't think back, because the nagging fear of having forgotten what she left overrides the curiosity of what she has, but-- ]
MANY OF MY COMPANIONS HAVE CHOSEN TO LOOK AHEAD AT SUCH A COST
BE IT FRIEND, FAMILY, OR SOMETHING ELSE
IT IS SIMPLY THE WAY OF THINGS, AS THOU HATH SAID
NOTHING COMES WITHOUT A COST
[ a pause, because certain things should come without a cost -- somethings will always have a cost, something that must be done to ensure that the result can remain, but in an ideal world... ]
NONETHELESS!!!!!!!!!
IN TERMS OF DEATH, ONCE ONE HAS DIED THEY REMAIN DEAD WHENCE I AM FROM
WHAT IT MEANS TO BE DEAD MAY DIFFER AMONG THE POPULACE, BUT THAT CAN BE SAID FOR WHAT IT MEANS TO LIVE AS WELL, NO?
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[ Maybe it's not only Don's city that works on this principle. Maybe everything does, one way or another. ]
You're right.
People can live as though they're already dead. And they can live on after they die in the memories of those left behind.
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what an odd constant. not bad, though. it'll sort of give her the same feeling that heine does later. ]
IT WOULD SEEM THE LANDS FROM WHICH WE HAIL DO NOT DIFFER MUCH IN THAT WAY
HOW IS IT, THEN, THAT THY JUSTICE AND MINE OWN SEEM TO?
PERHAPS NOT SO MUCH THE BELIEF IN IT BUT THAT WHICH DEFINES IT
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It's because we've lived different lives.
I believe it's that simple.
Our experiences shape our senses of justice.
A person who grows up in a war zone fighting to survive and a person who grows up in relative safety may both detest violence, but they'll probably have trouble seeing eye to eye any more than that.
The one who knows only war might think diplomacy is useless.
The one who knows only peace might think all violence is wrong, no matter what.
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... is not one she thinks back on often, and so she does not now; the present, the future, have more to offer than that which lies behind. if what sinclair said was true in that basement, then her time is to come sooner or later, drawn by the whims of fate towards a golden bough
but not here, and so she doubles down on it mattering not. ]
I SEE THY POINT
WHAT HAS THINE BEEN LIKE?
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[ The child who grows up in a war zone and dismisses diplomacy because peace talks didn't stop the slaughter -- that was him. ]
Because of that, my fight is to change the world. So that there are no longer victims of war... or people like me.
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THERE IS A COMPANION OF MINE WHOM THEE WOULD GET ALONG WITH
WHO HAS LIVED A LIFE SIMILAR TO THEE, AND WHO STRIVES FOR THE SAME IN HER OWN WAY
THOUGH I DO NOT KNOW IF THEE WOULD AGREE WITH HER METHOD
MUCH AS THEE DO NOT AGREE WITH MINE
BUT MISTRESS RODYA HAS A KIND HEART AND A DESIRE TO ENSURE THOSE AROUND HER DO NOT WANT FOR ANYTHING
THAT THEY DO NOT FEEL IT NECESSARY TO STRIKE AGAINST ONE ANOTHER
NOR EAT ONE ANOTHER
SIMPLY TO SURVIVE THEMSELVES
SHE IS MOST ADMIRABLE
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There are people in every world who are trying to help those around them, doing their best with the tools they have, following the values they earnestly believe in.
[ People want to do good, and that matters. ]
Tell me about her method.
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WHOM HADN'T ENOUGH MONEY FOR EVEN A MOMENT'S WORTH OF PEACE
SHE STRUCK AN AXE THROUGH THE HEAD OF AN OLD WOMAN WHO HAD BEEN KEEPING THEIR MONEY FOR HERSELF WITHIN A SAFE
A TAX COLLECTOR WHO WRUNG THE BONES OUT OF THE PEOPLE SHE LIVED ABOVE
IT CAME WITH CONSEQUENCES, FOR THE COLLECTOR'S SISTER WAS OF IMPORT IN THOSE BACKSTREETS
BUT FOR A MOMENT
MISTRESS RODYA AND THE OTHERS HAD A TASTE OF WHAT A QUALITY LIFE WAS
OF WHAT ALL DESERVE TO HAVE
I CANNOT CALL WHAT SHE DID AN INJUSTICE
IF THERE IS UNFAIRNESS IN THE SYSTEM, IT MUST BE ROOTED OUT
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[ Find what it is that makes the world twisted, and destroy it.
He's been living by that principle since he first saw a Gundam. There's no circumstance under which Setsuna could condemn what Rodya did. ]
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THEN THEE WOULD GET ALONG WELL
IT IS WHY SHE AND I DO TOO
ALONG WITH HER BEING A VERY GOOD FRIEND, WHO IS EASY TO SPEAK WITH AND IS PERHAPS THE MOST EASYGOING OF US ALL
IT IS NOT A TOPIC SHE WILL SPEAK ON HOWEVER
THOUGH I THINK IT ADMIRABLE OF HER MYSELF
MANY OF US ARE LIKE THAT, AND FEEL THE SAME AS SHE